The History of Palitoy From a Variant's Persepctive

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The History of Palitoy From a Variant's Persepctive

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Been thinking a lot about variants, and how they all fit together (thanks to T-Shot for Phase 1.5, and everyone else for all their input).

To my mind, a broad and simplified story of Palitoy’s production of AF would read something like this:

Pre-Phase
Palitoy make the ever popular Action man range, are on to a winner, and seek to expand.

Phase 1a ( :originalaf: )
The first 13 AF figures are produced, to the highest standards, based on the Action Man originals. All details are correct, including helmet decals and paint highlights.

German Stormtrooper, Deep Sea Diver, Mission Pilot, SAS, Australian Jungle Fighter, Commando, US Paratrooper, Desert Rat, Frogman, Mountain & Arctic, Ground Assault, British Marine. In addition, there is also the Commander Figure.


Phase 1b ( :originalaf: )
Increased interest leads to new factory, and a stack of simplifications/changes in the moulds. So we see decreased attention to detail (decals, etc.), and changes in moulding due to their now being 2 factories making them (or more, but effectively 2 moulds for all of the body parts). This means variants in the original 13 figures, as well as the introduction of 6 new figures, of which only 1 has a significant variant (the Naval Assault, but as he is being made in two factories, he is also showing the same variant features). At this time, plans are made for a larger more bold line.

2 Para, Arctic Assault, Helicopter Pilot, Naval Assault, Night Patrol, SAS Frogman.


Phase 2a ( :AFLogo: )
The original Action Force is discontinued, and AF is born. Many of these new figures used existing moulds from Phases 1a & 1b, carrying with them the variants produced in Phase 1b (for example, the Naval Assault figure, repainted, variants and all, as Sea Skimmer/Surfer) In addition, many new moulds are also made to create the new range. Almost immediate success means that plans are afoot for an expansion.


Phase 2b ( :AFLogo: )
This is what has been known as the ‘second wave’ in which figures in Phase 2a continue to be made, but new figures are added to the range. At this stage, and in order to cope with increased demand, a new factory(s) is used, and new moulds are made (as 1b above). These new moulds copy the Phase 2a moulds, but are sometimes subtly different, and here we also see a monkeying around with both painting technique and plastic (see various posts mentioning these). It is this that produces the many variants, and the use of two moulds produces the ‘rule of two’ in which there are often two variants of figures (the flat hand and the round hand, the doofus and non-doofus, etc.).


Phase 2c ( :AFLogo: / :af: )
This phase sees a winding down of AF production, and we see an increase in ‘Friday afternoon specials’, in mis-carding, figures with bad paint, bad plastic and two left legs (all discussed previously). Eventually, the dream is over, and all crumbles, heroically, before the might of GI Joe.


Phase 3 ( :af: )
This sees Palitoy as a sub-division of General Mills producing, or just selling on their behalf, Action Force and Cobra toys. The introduction of Duke and his team versus Cobra Commander, etc.


There is obviously much more going on at Palitoy than just this, but I think that covers it from a variant perspective, and we can now, I think, begin to peg the variants to the various Phases. So, for example, the Zip Fronted Commander is Phase 1a, Plain Fronted Commander is Phase 1b, but both are used in Phase 2a in a repainted form as Z Force Commander.

The Phasing is not solid, at no point did anyone in Palitoy sit round a table smoking a cigar and bellow “gentlemen, we are now entering Phase 2b… make me some new moulds”. Rather, as and when it was needed, new things were introduced, new moulds were made, and new paint ordered. For example, Phases 2c and 3 were obviously happening at the same time, roughly, and Phase 2a began as Phase 1b was being wrapped up, allowing the surplus figures to be sold.

What do you think? Any input, criticism, or mockery gratefully received.

EDIT - I tweaked the Phase names a little.
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I love it! The theory is certainly sound, even though the mind of the author is not!! :-)
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SteveD wrote:I love it! The theory is certainly sound, even though the mind of the author is not!! :-)
Why thank you Mr D., coming from you 'tis indeed a compliment.
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Some tentative dates for the Phases:
Phase 1a – August 1982 – Intro of Action Force
Phase 1b – Late 1982 / early 1983 – in time for Christmas 1982
Phase 2a – April 1983 – ready for summer 1983 (according to 1983 Catalogue)
Phase 2b – Late 1983 / Early 1984 – in time for Christmas 1983 or Summer 1984
Phase 2c – Late 1984 – end of Action Force
Phase 3 – Late 1984 – in time for Christmas 1984 (Battle Action Force Cobra stories start Jan 1985, BAF annual 1985 (published in 1984) has Cobra on the cover)


Seems to work ok. Tentative indeed, so any additions or points of oppposition, shout out.
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Working through the catalogues it seems that Action Force is split between phases 2a and 2b, with Phase 2c simply a chaotic period at the end of Action Force, rather than a Phase proper.


Phase 2a
April 1983 sees the start of the new Action Force, with the launch of The Enemy, SAS and Z Force. Q Force and Space Force were launched later in the year – actually October 1983 according to the catalogue, though perhaps earlier in reality, given the massive popularity of AF.
These are all Phase 2a:

Figures
Enemy Baron Ironblood
Enemy Black Major
Enemy Muton
Enemy Red Jackel
Enemy Red Shadow
Q Force Sonar Officer
Q Force Aqua Trooper
Q Force Deep Sea Defender
SAS Sparrowhawk
SAS Squad Leader
SAS Stakeout
SAS Stalker
SAS Commando
SAS Frogman
Space Force Security Trooper
Space Force Space Pilot
Space Force Commander
Space Force Patroller
Space Force Pilot
Z Force Quarrel
Z Force Radio Operator
Z Force Sapper
Z Force Steeler
Z Force Wheels
Z Force Captain
Z Force Commander
Z Force Infantryman

Vehicles
Enemy Shadowtrack
Q Force Stingray
Q Force Swordfish
SAS Boat Patrol
SAS Para Attack
SAS Panther
Space Force Cosmic Cruiser
Space Force Satellite Defence
Z Force Rapid Fire Motorcycle
Z Force Battle Tank
Z Force Jeep




Phase 2b ('Second Wave')
TV advertising started in May 1984, but must have been launched early in 1984, as they talk about “storming into 1984” and being “about to expand” in the 1984 catalogue that must have been produced in the tail end of 1983. Anyway, what this did was to tell us what was released in this 2nd Wave, or Phase 2b as I am terming it.
These are all Phase 2b:

Figures
Enemy Kraken
Enemy Red Laser
Enemy Red Vulture
Enemy Red Wolf
Enemy Red Jackal
Enemy Skeletron
Q Force Dolphin
Q Force Surfer
SAS Hunter
SAS Blades
SAS Beaver
SAS Attack Trooper
Space Force Moondancer
Space Force Engineer
Z Force Jammer
Z Force Gaucho
Z Force Medic
Z Force Minesweeper

Vehicles
Enemy Escape Armour
Enemy Laser Exterminator
Enemy Shadowtrak
Enemy Roboskull
Enemy Hyena
Q Force Sealion
Q Force Sea Skimmer
SAS Wolverine
SAS Mobile Missile System
SAS Hawk
SAS Silent Attack
Space Force Triad Fighter
Z Force ATC
Z Force Command Centre
Z Force Whirlwind
Z Force Dart
Z Force Shaft
Z Force Lance
Z Force Attack Cannon

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Where would have SWF fitted into this?
Would they have been at the very start of Action Force (Phase 2a) or would they be in with the Phase 2b?
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I'd certainly say at 2a. They were using s1 vehicles and the like, so I def reckon 2a.
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That's pretty impressive. Indiana Jones would be proud.
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Chopper wrote:That's pretty impressive. Indiana Jones would be proud.
Why thank you Chops, my pleasure.
Been dying to get at this for ages, but now with term done and the summer holidays here, I finally have the time.
SteveD wrote:I'd certainly say at 2a. They were using s1 vehicles and the like, so I def reckon 2a.
Yeah, so SWf would be in at the start, rather than a 2b introduction of a new force, which would have been awesome too.
SWF must have been pulled fairly early as there is no reference made to it anywhere in the comics (bar the one vague reference to "Special Weaponry" in the first Action Force story which may or may not be relevent) or in the trade catalogues.
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Just out of interest, what were the Phase 1b cardbacks like?
2 Para et al. were all second phase, so did they just have the regular cardbacks from Phase 1a (without their photograph), or were they different and showed pictures of all of the Phase 1b figures?
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They were different mate! Showed minesweeper, surfer etc.
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