ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 17:38
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Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 18:34
About bloody time!
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 21:08
Indeed, hallelujah!
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 21:54
The thing about it is we were all over them start to finish, awesome.
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 22:15
So much for avoiding knowing the score until I watch the match later?! Spoilers on BFTB now too!?!?!, Nowhere is safe! I'm going to have to subject myself to a complete media blackout from now on! I'm chuffed though. Well done to the lads 
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 22:46
Same here, Shaun. Loosing to England is like loosing to the Otago Dairy farmers under 12 girls team. Three teams never to lose against, the Bok's, France and England. Anything else is acceptable. Maybe after 20 games on the trot without loss the AB's just needed a rest?
Besides, all the AB's supporters were in bed, woke up to a nightmare.
Besides, all the AB's supporters were in bed, woke up to a nightmare.
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 01 Dec 2012 23:01
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 02 Dec 2012 10:40
To follow on from Senor Gung-Hoeddie's point
England were smart on the kicking as well, knowing how dangerous NZ are after turnovers etc., so that must have helped a bit, along with the massive defence and attack with a bit of decent risk-taking etc. It was a bit of a case of 'put your enemy in a position where he cannot do -or even communicate- what he wants to do'. Massive. NZ fightback was still aggressive tho'.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10851411The unbeaten record has gone. The season has ended in stunningly bad fashion with England bursting into astonishing life at Twickenham to not only beat the All Blacks - but to beat them well and to beat them playing inspired rugby.
England looked a lot more like the All Blacks than New Zealand did. They were smart, they were committed and they were creative. And on top of that they were relentlessly physical. They won because they deserved it - ran the All Blacks off their feet in the end after blasting them off in the first half. New Zealand didn't have a lot of answers - it's been a long season for sure but they were in London to win and didn't stand a chance, not because of fatigue but because they weren't allowed to play the game they wanted.
They weren't really allowed to play any game as England controlled things for most of the game bar the first 10 minutes of the second half when the All Blacks scored two tries and gave the impression they were going to storm home at a canter.
England were smart on the kicking as well, knowing how dangerous NZ are after turnovers etc., so that must have helped a bit, along with the massive defence and attack with a bit of decent risk-taking etc. It was a bit of a case of 'put your enemy in a position where he cannot do -or even communicate- what he wants to do'. Massive. NZ fightback was still aggressive tho'.
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 02 Dec 2012 10:54
Risk taking is the key to beating NZ. If you play it safe and keep to structured play it'll be the end of you.
If you deny the ball to NZ, you are in with a chance. Mind you, it only takes 30 seconds for that to fall apart, as you mention. So they cast off the shackles of the old whinging fraternity and it paid off. The AB's started putting in as much young blood as they could, 5 or so years ago. That's what made the difference. We have 3 world class 5 eights and as many for every other position too. This is why the Aussies are struggling, not enough new blood, and too late for what they have.
Better give my Welsh mate a call............
If you deny the ball to NZ, you are in with a chance. Mind you, it only takes 30 seconds for that to fall apart, as you mention. So they cast off the shackles of the old whinging fraternity and it paid off. The AB's started putting in as much young blood as they could, 5 or so years ago. That's what made the difference. We have 3 world class 5 eights and as many for every other position too. This is why the Aussies are struggling, not enough new blood, and too late for what they have.
Better give my Welsh mate a call............
Re: ENGLAND THRASH NZ 38-21!
Posted: 02 Dec 2012 14:10
Yeah NZ's strength in depth is excellent, the whole national system paying off, can never be written off and always ready to counter-attack after turnovers.
Still, was great to see the England backs really getting stuck in with some self-belief.
Indeed, hard time for the Welsh at the moment, especially after the RWC glory.
Still, was great to see the England backs really getting stuck in with some self-belief.
Indeed, hard time for the Welsh at the moment, especially after the RWC glory.