Bloodforthebaron versus Gijoe.nl

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Tea, cake and mutons. Or a schmoke and a pancake aboard a HISS? Which tickles your fanshy?

Bloodforthebaron - the finest wine available to AF vs Ironblood humanity
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77%
Gijoe.nl - the finest wine available to AF vs Cobra inhumanity
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23%
 
Total votes: 26

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Re: RE AF ALL THE WAY

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Lady Jaye wrote: Do I smell jealousy, because the troops don't vote like expected? ;)
Guess I started the poll when I saw the massed ranks swarming at GIJOE.NL and was curious whether AF could muster a response in the face of overwhelming odds! Also, wondered what's are the best things about Gijoe.nl, obviously drives a lot of posting & debate, can't figure out myself as my Dutch/Flemish ain't what it should be.
Lady Jaye wrote: Without the help of Hasbro, Action Force might have stopped after wave 1. To be strictly honest, what IS GI Joe in Europe nowadays? Hardly anything compared to USA.
That's true, Hasbro certainly helped things move forward but what Palitoy did to integrate them into their range was cool. If GIJOE was a little less US and a little more European AF/ATT (if you see what I mean) maybe it would still have comparable popularity...
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Quickfire wrote:Also, wondered what's are the best things about Gijoe.nl, obviously drives a lot of posting & debate, can't figure out myself as my Dutch/Flemish ain't what it should be.
First of all, we do have an international section. :D

The reason most conversation is done in Dutch is because there are already enough GI Joe fora in English. More reason why it is in Dutch: in the 80-ies GI Joe was released in Dutch or Dutch/French packaging, there was a Dutch GI Joe Club, loads of Dutch flyers and brochures, etc. Hasbro was really active marketing wise. And finally, soon (don't ask me when), a Dutch GI Joe toy archive will be launched, with strictly Dutch, Flemmish items.

Comparing the fora:
Bloodforthebaron.com is a little "quiet" most of the times. I asked for a reason a while ago "did this forum die or something?". Only 5 or 6 people are posting on a regular basis.

At gijoe.nl most conversation is stimulated by a small group as well. For a small country we have a very active board. Since my job allows me to be online during work, I tend to post a lot. At gijoe.nl next to serious topics regarding gijoe a lot of nonsense and funny stuff is shared. People talk to each other like they have known each other for years. For newcomers sometimes difficult, but those who persist will find a warm "family". Trading section is very active. These things boosts traffic and make gijoe.nl a fun place to keep visiting.


But when it comes to toys I will always love my Action Force better than GI Joe, because Action Force was my favourite childhood toy! The comics were more realistic than the obvious American superhero crap. As a kid I really loved my first swivel jointed figure (Quarrel). She had extra articulation, but I noticed she lacked the detail other figures had. When AF and Cobra were introduced the whole military image got lost and I lost interest as a kid.
Quickfire wrote:If GIJOE was a little less US and a little more European AF/ATT (if you see what I mean) maybe it would still have comparable popularity...
I couldn't agree with you more: a little less USA and more European would be appreciated. But remember: in the eighties the USA was still the trendsetter in the word and every European wanted to be one. Levis's and other American brands were selling like crazy, so the change from Action Force to GI Joe was easy.

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Yup, have now clocked the international section!! 8) Waded through the Dutch in vain hope of understanding, will open my eyes next time. I see the point, Hasbro were obviously very smart marketeers on the Oranje 'continent'!

Small country? Every Flem I know says they are Dutch (despite having a Belgian passport and usually being having served in Belgian forces :shock:), so it's a large nation in spirit! "Wie kommen an in Luik" (und so weiter), that's practically central France for Christ's sake (fkn Liegeoise even learn Flemish just bcos of the super-hot Flem girls :P ! Oh yeah, Luik is practically Maastricht :oops: watch the hills emerge from the plain, that's the goddamn border!!! Schengen forever, no cops now :wink:

But one time riding from Groningen to Brussels with a bunch of Low Countries' paras as soon as we hit the first sign for "Arnhem - Nijmegen -Eindhoven", as the Rhijn loomed large in the evening light on the horizon, they muttered "Market Garden... British Airborne" before I'd even as much as raised an eyebrow or ranted about eternal Dakotas flying to Holland. So I guess there's some kind of Dark Age Frisian empathy/fighting spirit that connects the various Action Force universes across these forums!

It's great you've got a lively site. Prob for me is that when Cobra came out I stopped buying anything - only got a Cobber Commander cos it was free with BAF - but still persevered reading the UK comics even beyond the Flint debacle (but the Transformer thing did finish me off) - so nowt but an odd tuppenny bit to throw in, if that. Au fait with kit and characters in the BAF & Marvel Cobra comics but not the toys themselves if you see what I mean. Even though the frkn Water Moccassin and Hydrofoil are perfect for the Shads! So can't really discuss enthusiastically the intricacies of the Dreadnoks, Crimson Guard, Destro-Baroness-Major Bludd love triangles etc.

Would be great to have the same kind of family here as you guys have. I wonder if the original AF was not around long enough to spawn one comparable to that for Gijoe.

I can remember getting Quarrel, Stalker and Steeler - even Red Laser! Their imperious thousand yard stares (apologies Laser) kinda freaked me at the time! Plus their vice like grips on crossbows & uzis! But they were just better at physical CQB...

And the realistic comics played a huge part. Ironic that just as the new additions to the range were being fully reflected in BAF the next thing we knew it was all being junked for Cobra... Creative and imaginative lines and the whole concept and story lines fitted in perfectly to the fighting spirit movies and comics we were being brought up on and the current events of the time (reflected in the comics) of plucky SF units against terrorists (and the odd full-scale war too). Dammit, I seemed to be force-fed the Dambusters and similar on the BBC after Sunday lunch at least once a month! Don't get me started on D-Day anniversary in 84, D-Day Dawson WAS in the Longest Day!

Speaking of which btw, my cunning plan if Gijoe.nl wins the poll is to send her Britannic Majesty's finest :marine: back to win another battle honour at Walcheren!!!! Bugger, now I sound like the Baron.

And thus, yep, America was THE trendsetter, but hitting us with the full on Joe/Cobra was not so much hitting us as the market moved towards a peak and a well-fed plateau but more Reaganesque fumbling on the Lorenz tax curve - they could've got a lot more cash out of us kids with a more astute move through AF-ATT development! Or maybe that's my UK-biased blinkers.

So he we are, we few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

Fk, US aspirational reality branding or wotever it's called has sucked me into its interminable web once more, Nooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!

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Quickfire wrote:Bugger, now I sound like the Baron.
You dare?

Anyway, it's 50/50...

Was there ever a Dutch Action Force comic? Huh? Huh? :P

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The Baron wrote:
Quickfire wrote:Bugger, now I sound like the Baron.
You dare?

Anyway, it's 50/50...

Was there ever a Dutch Action Force comic? Huh? Huh? :P
Well, these days, my poor, so very dear el Baroni-elski, it's more a question of whether a Flaams-que Komik-Blok including AF was ever colored by a GI-Joe freak east of Greenwich. Or not. Meaning that those west of Greenwich indulged in such insensitive watercolored designs. Via Adobe. Fgn. Acrobat. Raider. AKA "Profess-hiss-sss-ional".

Would we all be in agreeance on that or should we merely go with the current majority? UUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRAAHHHHHHHHHH !* Or now should we peremptorily go east to dissolve it?

Yours ever freakin at the prospect of GI JOE dominanz

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*gotta give Red Jack and my boi Red Volf a nod there, brainwashing or not.
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Well, to shoot myself squarely in the foot:

http://www.gijoe.nl/albums/categories.p ... &l=english

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Forget the Dutch English thing it should be basically action force vers gi joe forums have different interests and followers the toys are at question here

well my voteing goes nil point to gi joe 10 points to action force no political voting here yes our little guys have no moving limbs and 3 inches plus in height but in the eighties they were big news more realistic to service personal round the world and more identifieable to children especially vehicle wise and kept childrens imagineination in the realms of realistic and reality not like these gun swinging futuristic gi joes flying around on carpets and jeeps with more fire power than a type 52 regiment of challenger 2s and all being operated by 1 person

yes the forum is slow but our toys were killed off by a major blue chip company in the early eighties and theres only so much to cover like your memories so what little ideas we have on here open up more avenues

i couldnt highlight memories of relatives who died 25 years ago except one thats because she worked for palitoy and used to bring me them and i still remeber my first one the orange diver moc otherwise aint got a clue

so if my vote isnt clear ask these guys :dolphin: :levi: :levi2: :phones: :shark: :surfer: :attack: :barracuda: :beaver: :blades: :chopper: :eagle: :eagle2: :hunter: :quick: :sparrow: :stake: :stalker: :laser: :Aussie: :flagg: :inf: :shadow: :wheels: :skip:

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

Especially as we are in the midst of Falklands '25 y'all.

Since then, we have had more of the same to partake of. Tuzla, Pristina, Freetown, Timor Leste, Tora Bora, Sheberghan, Al-Amarah, Sangin, even the Horns of Hattin etc.

They were ever an ever disjointed ad-limbed aggreviated advance to contact! Not a multi-jointed prance to the ToysRNutzUz teller-lane!

Yours ever against ever insolent :enemy: scum.

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PS. What the fk was your relative really doing for George Smiley at Coalville-Station back in the old Cold War Louie?
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louie0316 wrote:Forget the Dutch English thing it should be basically action force vers gi joe forums have different interests and followers the toys are at question here
Belatedly: to give gijoe.nl its due, don't diss/miss-underestimate the power and prior enthusiasm of the gijoe.nl blok! They kept this forum going for a very long time, still got a great site!

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Re: Bloodforthebaron versus Gijoe.nl

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Never been there , Too me This is the official Action Force universe(although I did read a few reprints in the old UK Marvel title)maybe i'll pop around later when I 've read enough Joe stories I'm more familiar with The Force and Battle :inf:

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