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Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 21:26
by scoobydie
The Kraken Wakes wrote:Actually Sundance I think you'll find that among prominent philosophers, there are two distinct viewpoints on time. One view is that time is part of the fundamental structure of the universe, a dimension in which events occur in sequence. Time travel, in this view, becomes a possibility as other "times" persist like frames of a film strip, spread out across the time line. Sir Isaac Newton subscribed to this realist view, and hence it is sometimes referred to as Newtonian time. The opposing view is that time does not refer to any kind of "container" that events and objects "move through", nor to any entity that "flows", but that it is instead part of a fundamental intellectual structure (together with space and number) within which humans sequence and compare events. This second view, in the tradition of Gottfried Leibniz and Immanuel Kant, holds that time is neither an event nor a thing, and thus is not itself measurable nor can it be travelled.
Ummm what he said
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 21:40
by Sundance
no, i quoted the Doctor. i think a Time-Lord knows more about time-travel than some muffin who had an apple dropped on his head by an omnipotent alien.
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 21:47
by Ross SC
The Kraken Wakes wrote:Actually Sundance I think you'll find that among prominent philosophers, there are two distinct viewpoints on time. One view is that time is part of the fundamental structure of the universe, a dimension in which events occur in sequence. Time travel, in this view, becomes a possibility as other "times" persist like frames of a film strip, spread out across the time line. Sir Isaac Newton subscribed to this realist view, and hence it is sometimes referred to as Newtonian time. The opposing view is that time does not refer to any kind of "container" that events and objects "move through", nor to any entity that "flows", but that it is instead part of a fundamental intellectual structure (together with space and number) within which humans sequence and compare events. This second view, in the tradition of Gottfried Leibniz and Immanuel Kant, holds that time is neither an event nor a thing, and thus is not itself measurable nor can it be travelled.
Just wanted to turn the tables for a bit there
Well done krakers, you actually settled that one!
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 21:51
by Red Laser
Have a biscuit and a pat on the head on me TKW
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 22:05
by gung-hoeddie
The Kraken Wakes wrote: This second view, in the tradition of Gottfried Leibniz and Immanuel Kant, holds that time is neither an event nor a thing, and thus is not itself measurable nor can it be travelled.
but would it be fair to say that time travel is possible by using light and sight, we see events in space that have happened millions of years ago everyday as light travels though the cosmos, in theory providing we had the means we could travel into space and again if you had a powerful enough telescope look back on earth and view any event in history obviously the further you travel the further back in time you could see. Would that be considered time travel?
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 22:09
by The Kraken Wakes
I think wherever you go and whatever you do you are always travelling through time, there are lots arguments on this but all are theoretical and everything is conjecture until science "proves" otherwise ...
But, to travel through space and look back on what people were doing in history with a powerful telescope would, in my book, be called "snooping".
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 22:15
by gung-hoeddie
fair comment. I suppose we are travelling through time from the moment we're born i'd never considered that.
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 23:06
by Red Laser
I would love to go back in time punch a few twats.....er I mean right some things that went wrong also pick up some stuff
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 23:45
by Ross SC
Ironblood wrote:I would love to go back in time punch a few twats.....er I mean right some things that went wrong also pick up some stuff
i know that feeling, but remember, the consequences of creating a paradox can be dire........
Re: Has BFTB realy been online since the 70's??......
Posted: 20 Jun 2009 23:48
by Red Laser
Ross SC wrote:Ironblood wrote:I would love to go back in time punch a few twats.....er I mean right some things that went wrong also pick up some stuff
i know that feeling, but remember, the consequences of creating a paradox can be dire........
True there is that but some of them needed sorting out