was anyone bidding on this?

[zakkfan]

same seller as the red wolf i won
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLD-PLASTIC-ACTIO ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OLD-PLASTIC-ACTIO ... dZViewItem


no chest logo on diver and red shadow seems to be german?
play wear?

[SteveD]

I was bidding on the Red Shadow too. I'm sure he is a German one. I'd say the ultimate Buyer was too to go that high for him (bearing in mind I got a German Shad as part of that batch of nine Shadows for £47!). I know what you mean with playwear on the helmet, but the usual way I tell is the chest detail - it is not highlighted in white on the "pocket" of the German Shad. So if a Shad has no helmet logo, doesn't look hammered, and has no white "medal" on his chest, it's usually a safe bet its a German one.

I'm at a loss with the Diver - looks too good a condition to be playwear, as it is purely the Q missing isnt it - paint is still on nose etc.

To be honest, I think these are very late prototypes, or factory seconds. The Red Wolf was a weird one - one red boot, one black, and no painting. Just looked like nobody had bothered finishing him! Interesting figures though Neal - and as I say - interested to see some close ups of him once you get him.

Is the Seller based anywhere near Leicester?

[Lady Jaye]

Red Wolf and Q Force diver appear to me as friday afternoon unfinished production models: the bell rings, workers drop their work, skive off and head for the pub for a pint. The Red Shadow does not appear to have playwear. Two options: Gerry-variant or an unfinished production model.

Different discussion is that I really don't understand why you would pay so much money for such crappy figures.

[The Baron]

Not sure about your theory Jaye, as the Q Force fig has both red and blue paint on the yellow torso. I doubt the logos were printed seperately, unless they were all done by hand?

But I agree with you on the different discussion, I had to have my Red Wolf as I can pretend he is a Space Force variant, but I wouldn't be slightly interested if he had one yellow leg with blue and green stripy arms

[zakkfan]

well the way i see it is there isnt many factory errors kicking around and i find them interesting
so each to his own yea?

[paulitoy]

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The way I see this is that the Red Wolf is probably a painting error figure that either slipped through the daily standards check or got sold at the end when they were emptying the factory shelves out and sweeping the floor in 1986.

Either way, this 'looks' a bit prototype-y and would have stood very nicely next to my real proto's.













I wanted him a lot, so well done Neal. £25 was also my limit, though, as it's basically just a regular figure.

Because I have the 'complete' AF range plus pretty enormous armies, its just a few things that interest me these days:

the few moc's that I still need, stuff for customs, and proto/unusal stuff like this.






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[zakkfan]

same here paul
i completed my vintage star wars collection so got in to variants and factory errors
i am now at the same point with actionforce so am going the same way
its also something different to just having bog standard mint figures as i dont make customs myself
i get the legend know as andy1972 to make them for me,there isnt many who can match his expertise!

[SteveD]

I was going to paint him up nicely, paint a logo on his chest, and make him all lovely, like he never got the chance to be originally!

Or I just liked him cos he was quirky!