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 Post subject: Re: Boffin - The Scientist's Chest Logo
 Post Posted: 07 Dec 2008 19:52 
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hmmm......

however waves one and two were based on original action men ( soldiers from around the world )

cant recall an action man scientist ??

he dosnt seem to fit in the first waves in my opinion, and non of the original series figures had logos as such.

I would have to place him after the first series, which frustratingly rules him out of the base ?

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I'm still of the opinion that if Z Force was originally called heavy weapons then the 'Special Weapons' Force could have been the 5th good guy Force in series 2

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all the body parts can be taken from wave one...

however the Z force minesweeper is basically a repaint of the Australian jungle fighter with a new head.

Palitoy did tend to recycle parts a lot so I suppose this could have been a later figure ?

Im not convinced that a "special weapons force" could have been a new force, but I suppose it could have been an "idea" while Z, Q, SAS and space force were in early development.

maybe palitoy realised a team of scientists wouldnt have too many play options ?

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however waves one and two were based on original action men ( soldiers from around the world ). he dosnt seem to fit in the first waves in my opinion, and non of the original series figures had logos as such.




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I'm still of the opinion that if Z Force was originally called heavy weapons then the 'Special Weapons' Force could have been the 5th good guy Force in series 2


Cheers Guys, 2 very good points!

Keep the ideas coming!

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what about accessories ?

should he have came with a test tube or something ?

Im tempted to give mine one of those remote control handheld thingys that came with the Dart, lance, shaft.

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Im not convinced that a "special weapons force" could have been a new force, but I suppose it could have been an "idea" while Z, Q, SAS and space force were in early development.


If Z Force were originally called 'Heavy Weapons', then possibly 'Special Weapons' was a name of one of the other forces proposed when Palitoy were thinking what to do when designing Series 2.

They might all have been 'Something Weapons'-Force initially before ditching the idea for the letters.

'Special Weapons' would probably have morphed into Space Force [because of the rocket].

This would put the figure between Series 1 and 2 in the ideas stage which would make sense.

The colour scheme on the chest could have been from this 'transition-phase' when the logo was still orange and black before they switched to yellow and red....

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so "special weapons" became space force ?

that might make sense especially with the rocket logo.

so perhaps this guy is an early concept space figure, he does have that hi-tech look about him and I dont think he would look out of place on a space station, or on the bridge of the enterprise !

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There's definitely no Action Man equivalent?

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The Baron wrote:
There's definitely no Action Man equivalent?


nothing even remotely similar, I think mr Tree should give us the address, then we can organise a BFTB day trip ? can you put a minibus on Baron ?

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so "special weapons" became space force ?

that might make sense especially with the rocket logo.


The logo could represent an large ballistic missle that a "Special" would have been delivered on. Just a thought but the Scientist could have be part of a vehicle set so perhaps as the man launching the bucket of sunshine, no test tubes needed for that. The other force letters i think have historical bearing in terms of attachment to the Navy "Q" and "Z" was related to an infantry unit. I would have to do a wee bit more research here but I am sure that Palitoy have used real historical reference from the WW2 era.

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