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 Post Posted: 07 Aug 2009 20:40 
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Hot Fuzz ?/10 Haven't seen this as Simon Pegg and co annoy the piss out of me. Sorry.


WHAT???!!!
Go and buy it first thing tomorrow, it's an amazing film!
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 Post Posted: 07 Aug 2009 21:18 
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Watchmen is superb. I've just re-read the comic prior to viewing the Director's Cut, and I have to say I prefer it to the comic!

Masterpiece.

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 Post Posted: 07 Aug 2009 23:21 
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Hot Fuzz is great, you'll be telling us you haven't seen Shaun of the Dead either in a minute (and if you haven't, see that first!)
Destro is very Red Jackal looking :jackal:

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I liked that way that the whole Storm Shadow/Snake Eyes mythos was touched on. This is the most important thing about GI Joe. The Hard Master story being one that I hope will be developed as when I expect SS to be resurrected for GI Joe 2, it will be revealed that he didn't kill him.

Cobra Commander was quite interesting, at first I thought he must be Dr Venom or Mindbender, but was interested by the twist. He was very like the cartoon CC, but actually I felt it worked.

Not sure why Destro's mask had to be welded to his face?

I thought it was very brave of the filmakers to not really feature Cobra until the end, although I thought it was a good idea as long as the film is not a one-off.

I felt it was a strange idea to make the Baroness and Cobra Commander siblings, and perhaps the Baroness being evil because of the nanomites was going a bit far, as surely she would have to be evil in the sequel also?

The ending left no doubt that a sequel is planned.

I think a lot can be done with the characters, but as usual in two hours it is hard to build up enough character development. I hope this continues in the future films, I want to find out more about plotlines that are introduced, and that reminded me of the comic, Larry Hama would play the long game with stories, sometimes revealing secrets years after they were first hinted at.


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 Post Posted: 07 Aug 2009 23:30 
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The Baron wrote:
Watchmen is superb. I've just re-read the comic prior to viewing the Director's Cut, and I have to say I prefer it to the comic!

Masterpiece.


Regardless of what I said earlier I do really dig the film version this...Rorschach for me is one of the greatest "superheroes" of all-time, so how anyone not dig it ;)

How is the Director's Cut? Is it a worthy purchase? I only saw the cinema version and loved that one. I held out from buying it on DVD because I figured it'd get twenty different versions :D Apparently there's one with Black Freighter cut into which is coming out October or something...

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Hot Fuzz is great, you'll be telling us you haven't seen Shaun of the Dead either in a minute (and if you haven't, see that first!)


I'm a zombie-geek so I viewed this when it first came out, a great film as Pegg obviously knows his zombies but I think it's about the most I can stand from the guy :P


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 Post Posted: 07 Aug 2009 23:55 
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How is the Director's Cut? Is it a worthy purchase? I only saw the cinema version and loved that one. I held out from buying it on DVD because I figured it'd get twenty different versions :D Apparently there's one with Black Freighter cut into which is coming out October or something...

The DCut is epic, all of the cut scenes were clearly done to make space, as they are all excellent.

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Extra footage of Rorschach investigating the Comedian's apartment, He battles two cops. When Dreiberg arrives at Hollis Mason's place there is a police report on the incident, which gives Rorschach some backstory and references the Keene Act.

Lots more Hollis Mason, including his murder. Several scenes with the Newspaper Guy, although not to the degree of his comic appearances. Extra scene following the alleyway fight with Dreiberg and Jupiter vs Knot-Tops. Extra scene after the Prison Break where Rorschach manages to compliment and offend in one line: "Nice to see you back in uniform, Daniel. If only I'd known all it took would be a nice pair of legs." :lol:

Extra dialogue in the two Doc Manhattan sequences, first being in his potted history recollections and the other being his conversation on Mars with Laurie. Extra footage of the Comedian in Vietnam as well. In the barroom investigation scene Dreiberg hears of the death of Mason and viciously pummels a Knot Top. Also additional material in the Veidt assassination attempt and added dialogue between Rorschach and Dreiberg when they refuel Archie.

Additional scene with Laurie being quizzed by spooks after Manhattan's departure. When Manhattan goes to Mars in the cinema cut he simply teleports, in the DC he just empties the studio of people before departing (as in the comic). Dreiberg and Mason watch the whole thing on TV in a new clip.

There's a neat little scene of Rorschach getting into costume at nightfall. Extra dialogue in the shrink encounter including added gore in the kidnap recollection. There are countless other little silent appearances, such as Rorschach out of costume at Blake's funeral and generally just lurking with his placard. Also a sequence with the New Frontiersman delivery boy, the Newspaper seller and Kovacs.

Having reread the comic this week, I also have to agree with the changes. The extraneous characters are chopped, such as the Newspaper guy and all his customers, the psychiatist and his marital problems, the two cops and the missing artists on the "island". The new ending which makes the focus on Manhattan and his generator as opposed to the Alien squid and the island is a masterstroke, as it keeps the whole plot contained and focused on the core characters.

Another excellent move is Rorschach reclaiming his "face" from the psychiatrists' office during the Prison Break - in the comic he abandons it but then goes to collect his hitherto-unmentioned spare. Movie Nite Owl looks WAY cooler than comic Nite Owl. In the comic there is a whole section of Dreiberg planning the Prison Break which is cut, this adds spontaneity to the idea. All of the psychiatrit scenes are condensed into one sequence.

In the comic the finale sequence and Jon's departure is a lot more drawn out. The film manages to salvage all of the relevant dialogue and fit it into one poignant scene. Dreiberg pummelling Ozymandias is all-new (in the comic he is not witness to the murder of Rorschach) and in my opinion is a worthy addition. Also in the comic Dreiberg and Jupiter have to go undercover at the end because of the prison break, this is somewhat moot as they still have secret identities!

The extra Kovacs footage also serves to implicate him as the possible Mask-Killer. We see him as the lone nut, present at the funeral and watching all of the core characters. It also makes Rorscach's unmasking a much stronger turning point. This is now shown as the comic was originally intended.

The DCut fleshes it out much more neatly and comes in at three hours long. All of the cut material is taken from the comic. The "Tales of the Black Freighter" cartoon and "Under the Hood" mockumentary are also very enjoyable if you're into it. There is a lingering shot of the kid reading Tales of the Black Freighter which is clearly where one of the Ultimate Edition (Out in November) edits will fit.

10/10, whoever described it as pretentious needs to stop pandering to the lowest common denominator.

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 Post Posted: 08 Aug 2009 00:12 
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is the directors cut available in the UK ?

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 Post Posted: 08 Aug 2009 03:53 
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It's available here: https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/106 ... ab=summary

As much as I love it, I'll be waiting for the Ultimate Edition before parting with cash.

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 Post Posted: 08 Aug 2009 09:45 
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Cheers !

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The Baron wrote:
It's available here: https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/106 ... ab=summary

As much as I love it, I'll be waiting for the Ultimate Edition before parting with cash.


Cheers for the run-down Baron it really helps, I need to see this version...sounds amazing to say the least!

Does Ultimate have the Director's cut, all the special features and Black Freighter included? I need to buy it, but like everyone else I don't want to get screwed by the version I get :P


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 Post Posted: 08 Aug 2009 10:37 
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Oh yeah, I just found this also...

Part 1

Part 2

Or if they don't work this.


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