The Complete Works - Volume 1

Classic Battle Action Force comics - now in full colour!
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby The Baron » 06 Mar 2008 12:57

Aside I must apologise to Flavio Silvestri for omitting his name from the back cover colourists. Flavio was responsible for the fantastic work on the final chapter of World Enemy. I've gone back over my list and you were definitely on there, so I must have just f*cked up. Sorry, Flavio.
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby The Baron » 06 Mar 2008 13:00

Hey Airedevon 1, would you by any chance be the same Airedevon who used to post here?

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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby jamarmiller » 06 Mar 2008 13:17

The Baron wrote:Hey Airedevon 1, would you by any chance be the same Airedevon who used to post here?

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yes thats him!!
I got a pm from him!

welcome home huh!
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby jamarmiller » 06 Mar 2008 13:29

rjgibb wrote:Hey Jamar, how many have you produced then? Seems like at least 12 on here.

So there'll be a Vol. 2 and Vol. 3?? I guess they'll retail at the same price too huh?

If there are bulk orders and multiple volumes, is there any chance we can get a discount from the printers?

How many questions can I get in one post?!

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so far 14 has been printed up, half of the people should have gotten them by now or will in the next day or two


and ya volume II and III ( if everyone does what pages have been assigned to them that is LOL ) will be around the same price, Im trying to keep them at about 236 pages give or take a few ( probally give LOL )

as for bulk orders YES thier is a discount for ordering them in bulk ( but not multiple volumes ) but you would need at least 50 for any sizeable discount

its also cheaper to ship them together

however you would need to have them all go to the same place and if you didnt have everyone go there to pick them up , then you would have to ship them again to each individual and then its the same price LOL

if someone else in your city that you know wants one that would be the only real way to get it cheaper

YOu could have both books sent to one of yours house and one of you pick it up

and 52 questions a thread is the max you can ask

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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby The Baron » 06 Mar 2008 13:35

Dammit, I also left off Martin McCanney, we used his Z Force Infantryman Datafile too.

Sorry, Meertoh.
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby paulitoy » 10 Mar 2008 21:27

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Jamar, I've had time to read Tracker & World Enemy Number One so far - both great and full of great memories from my childhood. A few little comments/observations:

Why is Destro called 'Destron'? Is this mis-communication between Palitoy and the story writers?

My most favourite completely ridiculous part SO far:

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I love the fact that the problem of the guy having a chrome head & walking around a city in broad daylight is 'solved' by the wearing of a hat! Genius!

Also completely LOVE the data files - they were always a favourite of mine as a kid, but why didn't you put all the shadows files together all in the same volume, ie, include Kraken et al aswell. And why 4 versions of the same infantryman? Please don't take this as critical in any way whatsoever, I'm just asking that's all...

Also, I love the Ironblood stories more than Cobra [as do most of us on the forum I imagine], so why so few Ironblood and so many Cobra stories? Is it just because the Cobra stories are the ones that happen to have been coloured? The colouring, also, is pretty amazing! I don't know how you guys do it, but it looks great and is so impressive!

So, are more Ironblood stories planned for volume 2 rather than Cobra?

I so love this book and will very happily have volume 2, 3, 4 and whatever you decide to make. Its really great and, once again, thanks for making this possible!

:doc: :doc: :doc:
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Postby The Baron » 10 Mar 2008 23:08

Destron? Are you sure?
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby jamarmiller » 10 Mar 2008 23:34

paul wrote:
Jamar, I've had time to read Tracker & World Enemy Number One so far - both great and full of great memories from my childhood. A few little comments/observations:

Why is Destro called 'Destron'? Is this mis-communication between Palitoy and the story writers?



I know there was a lot of miscommunication between the two, in Jungle of Terro its guacho clearly, but on the cover its has guacho in the US colors / character Gung ho. Which wouldnt come out in the UK for quite some time

we also have Jammer showing up in later stories , when he was probally most likely suppose to be Stalker , as he was drawn with a clear Z on his chest that Jammer had.

we also from time to time have destro showing up with the crossbones of Red Jackal so either there was miscommunication a lot of the time, people didnt care , or people just forgot LOL

paul wrote:-

My most favourite completely ridiculous part SO far:

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I love the fact that the problem of the guy having a chrome head & walking around a city in broad daylight is 'solved' by the wearing of a hat! Genius!



heheheh great what a little hat can do, no clothes needed and no one will notice!! LOL hey those hats are pretty big at times! I have one! I use it every year when I go rice planting here in Japan! LOL

paul wrote:-

Also completely LOVE the data files - they were always a favourite of mine as a kid, but why didn't you put all the shadows files together all in the same volume, ie, include Kraken et al aswell. And why 4 versions of the same infantryman? Please don't take this as critical in any way whatsoever, I'm just asking that's all...



Okay for the Data files , Im glad you like them I do too, its nice to learn a little moe about these people. it makes them more personal.

why we didnt put all the red shadow files and other data files together in this volume??.
Three reasons really

1. I wanted to have something for the next volume really
2. This volume was the first and my main goal, for all of this is to get the word out on this great line and reintroduce it to the world, and with that in mind I wanted to not have anything toooo crazy out there that people would hate. To people who didnt grow up with this stuff, they usually cringe at the kraken and skeletron, so I thought for the first volume I would stay away from the more radical of the radical LOL ideas that came out.
3. I thought that if we ever did the Kraken story that would be a good place to put it. Since his appearances was limited to that story anyways

Okay now as for why the same data file:

As you know Action Force had many many deaths and sometimes these characters were given lines and several panels along with either a name or a code name. Now I personally hate hate the idea of one appearance and then die characters, so what I wanted to do was to take these code named guys and ,
1. flesh them out a little with thier data files and
2. also go back to previous stories that had nameless guys in the background talking and contributing to the story but didnt die in the story and wasnt particulary named in these previous stories and make them those characters, Color them the same colors. By doing this were not changing the story, text, art , NOTHING at all but instead adding to it without changing anything

This way when they die you feel it more

so those four guys

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all die in the great Cobra Robbery but we have them appearing several times throughout the series now, this way when they die you feel it more. I just wanted to make thier deaths a little more meaningful, Heck if they had code names and all they couldnt have just been a Lousy nobody LOL they had CODE NAMES that the writers went to all the trouble of thinking up, so they had to have more to them LOL




paul wrote:-
Also, I love the Ironblood stories more than Cobra [as do most of us on the forum I imagine], so why so few Ironblood and so many Cobra stories? Is it just because the Cobra stories are the ones that happen to have been coloured?


Okay so this was the thinking that was behind this whole project.

Reintroduce these great stories and characters to the public some people for the first time and some people who just forgot about them for a second time.

Now to do that with the new people , I had to LURE them in with showing characters that they already knew and love, if we had started off with the original shads and AF characters then a lot of people ( IMVHO ) probally wouldnt have noticed or cared but when you have then interacting with people that the general public already knows , then it attracts them. Once they see these guys interacting with thier favorites ( ie Cobra Commnader , Storm Shadow, Duke, ect ect ) and more well known characters, then they want more and will spend more time reading about these people.

This is also why I used Quarrel Stories a lot and had her appear as many times as possible, Shes probally the most well known of Action force to GI JOE fans that dont know much about AF. Also comic book / toy fans love a powerful pretty female LOL so it was another way to lure them in. So it was definate conscious decision but with a reason behind it ( whether its right or wrong LOL there was thinking behind it ). I Personally think its working too , not only have we had AF appear in the american comics ( issue 31 ) but I have seen many customs of these guys popping up recently ( Please people, !! submit these to the gi joe collectors club so we can get official releases!!! PLEASE LOL sorry little ad there)

So ya we choose stories that had Characters from the US and original characters from the UK. The exception to this in the collected volume I was Tracker and later, the short 87 page Snake eyes strip, but Tracker was again chosen because of Quarrel. Snake eyes was because it was short and hes popular

paul wrote:-............The colouring, also, is pretty amazing! I don't know how you guys do it, but it looks great and is so impressive!


ya they did a incredible job didnt they we have been soooo lucky for sure and lots more to come

paul wrote:[color=#FFFF00.................................So, are more Ironblood stories planned for volume 2 rather than Cobra?

I so love this book and will very happily have volume 2, 3, 4 and whatever you decide to make. Its really great and, once again, thanks for making this possible!

:doc: :doc: :doc: [/color]


YES volume II is called BLOOD FOR THE BARON right now ( and this is subject to change )

I have volume II containing

Action Force
Iron Blood
death Castle
Menace of the Baron
Operation Sea Lion
Jungle of Terror
Assault on A-toll Z
Death of a Hawk
Revenge of the Red Shadows
and Possibly Death in South America ( if we can get it finished )

so ya lots more of those stories coming up


paul wrote:[color=#FFFF00
I so love this book and will very happily have volume 2, 3, 4 and whatever you decide to make. Its really great and, once again, thanks for making this possible!

:doc: :doc: :doc: [/color]


Im really really loving it that people are enjoying this book as much as I am, thank you for your questions, I loved them , I didnt think anything negative about it at all so I encourage more questions like this so thank you for the GREAT questions as you can see from my long ass post I enjoyed answering them LOL ( hey I like to talk)

so keep them coming, this is for all of us and we need your input, I want to hear the GOOD and THE BAD as long as its constructive criticism that we can use to make later volumes better!

with that said, wasnt anyone ever curious to the whole nightmare thing?

hes obviously met both Quarrel and tracker before that issue and he has killed many many AF personel but we only ever got to see one story arc with him in it


thanks again for the great questions
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby vega-1 » 11 Mar 2008 04:03

Awesome I can't wait for it. Put me down for another one and I also read that too. Wasn't Megatron called Destron in the UK?
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Re: The Best of ACTION FORCE Volume 1 : International Heroes

Postby jamarmiller » 11 Mar 2008 04:59

vega-1 wrote:Awesome I can't wait for it. Put me down for another one and I also read that too. Wasn't Megatron called Destron in the UK?



na but your thinking is close, your thinking of the name of the DECEPTICONS in japan they were called DESTRONS

Megatron was Megatron in the UK

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