Charley's War: The End

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Charley's War: The End

Postby Quickfire » 22 Oct 2013 15:14

Just got back to the FOB and the final volume of Charley's War arrived this afternoon.

Verily doth the old order passeth.

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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Chopper » 22 Oct 2013 23:23

I haven't got around to getting any yet, but I'm hanging to read.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Hopper » 22 Oct 2013 23:46

Nice. Just out of interest, does it end after the Russian Front in 1919, or do the books include Charlie's experience in 1940 France leading up to Dunkirk.

Personally, though not as good as the 'trench' era Charlie's War, I think the WWII effort was a valiant attempt in a post-Mills paradigm! I actually liked (and continue to like) it.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Chopper » 23 Oct 2013 03:23

Same here, Hopper.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Quickfire » 23 Oct 2013 06:10

Fired up some char and read last night. Had a few flashbacks to reading them in the first instance nearly thirty years ago in the process.

Great intro, superb scans (yet again - last few volumes have been excellent, now a little hard to know where the limited amounts of original art in the more recent volumes ended and the scanning continued), and amidst a slightly predictable coda from Mr. Mills some very interesting news.

Hopper wrote:Nice. Just out of interest, does it end after the Russian Front in 1919, or do the books include Charlie's experience in 1940 France leading up to Dunkirk.


Indeed, just after the Russian Civil War. Charley's then on the dole and meets Old Bill and they go for a drink ... just as Hitler's elected Chancellor.

Hopper wrote:Personally, though not as good as the 'trench' era Charlie's War, I think the WWII effort was a valiant attempt in a post-Mills paradigm! I actually liked (and continue to like) it.
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Chopper wrote:Same here, Hopper.


Yeah, it doesn't exactly romanticise the Phoney War and the mess the BEF got into. Mills wanted to go further into interviewing vets and subvert the mythology of WW2 in the same way as WW1, he elaborates a little more in the coda. The villian would be Churchill.

However, to do that you need to explain why Churchill was against the establishment faction who wanted peace with the Reich, not least the recent drip-drip-drip of info confirming Hess' mission on Hitler's behalf to get Lord Halifax-Duke of Windsor et. al. in line behind the Reich pre-Barbarossa in return for the Empire remaining intact. Hence his permanent and very weird incarceration in Spandau (guards could not make eye contact with him, but had to follow him everywhere). Similarly Roosevelt subverted the same faction in the States, Prescott Bush et. al., who still managed to trade with the enemy thereafter in a more limited fashion (Ford, IBM etc.).

As for other myths, the clean war in the desert etc., they were cast aside years twenty or more years ago.

Etc. etc. etc.

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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby fuzzchile » 24 Feb 2014 21:29

I would like to see Charleys WW2 exploits perhaps collected in a Garth Ennis Presents Battle Classics volume-(The HMS Nightshade hardback is excellent) I doubt that' will happen seeing as he stopped reading it around that time-but worth reprinting just for Joe's Artwork-no one has drawn the evacuation of Dunkirk quite as masterly as him. .. if they did do another volume maybe chuck in some Soldier Sharp Rat of Rifles in their for good measure.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby The Baron » 24 Feb 2014 21:48

I agree. It needs to be reprinted as well as a homage to Joe's dedication and skill. Incredible atmosphere in that comic, just incredible. In a sea of gung-ho bravado glory-of-war propaganda childhood indoctrination comics, Charlerys' War captured the horror of war without compromise.

The sad truth is the WW2 strips don't compare, as pat mills was not awarded his budget required. For the WW1 story he interviewed veterans - the stories in that strip are TRUE. Fleetway couldn't / wouldn't give him the money he needed to do the same for WW2, so he walked, the strip was handed to a guest writer and although the story is based on factual events, the characters become fantasy.

I have no idea how much Joe based his likenesses on actual people, but every single one of the characters in the non-Pat Mills books is full of life right up until... It's epic stuff, it should be reprinted in full.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Chopper » 24 Feb 2014 23:29

Amen brother.
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Re: Charley's War: The End

Postby Quickfire » 10 Sep 2015 16:46

Chopper wrote:Amen brother.


Amen indeed.

Anyone looking for the old micro-site previously hosted on sevenpennynightmare.co.uk now needs to go to downthetubes: http://downthetubes.net/?page_id=21061

Over the last few years Moose Harris and I have maintained the semi-official Charley’s War web site, originally established by Neil Emery, which helped generate enough renewed interest in the World War One comic strip by Pat Mills and Joe Colquhoun to persuade Titan Books to reprint it.
In 2015, hosting problems with the site meant I had to reluctantly make the decision to import its postings and features to downthetubes to ensure its survival.
I hope you’ll find the pages now gathered here about Charley’s War and other war comics of interest.
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