THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Double-Tap » 15 Jun 2009 16:40

The Baron wrote:We looked into it last year, Bill. as I say it would most likely create the very obstacle that stops it from happening. Say Hasbro did hear our call and plan a new range of Shads, the first thing they'll do it look for copyright.

"Oh look, it's registered to some bloke in the UK"
"Forget it, then."

Also the costs of producing it ourselves were ridiculous, and we have no distribution capabilities, and we'll never see them in the comics. Convincing Hasbro and getting them made as an official team is the best plan, and the best start is to get the existing DDP characters made into figures and build upon that - I suggested that in out first Q&A.

i remember the q&a but feel if we had some legal right to the property and were willing to work with hasbro or another toy company there would be a better chance of being taken seriously. i know this is all ifs/ands/buts and wishes but i would love an AF comeback, like us all.
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Dave Tree » 15 Jun 2009 17:01

Double-tap wrote:
The Baron wrote:We looked into it last year, Bill. as I say it would most likely create the very obstacle that stops it from happening. Say Hasbro did hear our call and plan a new range of Shads, the first thing they'll do it look for copyright.

"Oh look, it's registered to some bloke in the UK"
"Forget it, then."

Also the costs of producing it ourselves were ridiculous, and we have no distribution capabilities, and we'll never see them in the comics. Convincing Hasbro and getting them made as an official team is the best plan, and the best start is to get the existing DDP characters made into figures and build upon that - I suggested that in out first Q&A.

i remember the q&a but feel if we had some legal right to the property and were willing to work with hasbro or another toy company there would be a better chance of being taken seriously. i know this is all ifs/ands/buts and wishes but i would love an AF comeback, like us all.
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It would be highly unlikely to claim a legal right over something that wasn't created by any of us and technically speaking is actually the Intellectual Property of Hasbro. All Palitoy IP was transferred to Hasbro. I'm frequently asked if a 'privately funded' resurrection would be possible, but you only have to look no further than the 40th Anniversary Action Man sets - which use Palitoy branding - to see that Hasbro have ultimate ownership, even of something that they historically did not oversee.

I personally believe the best approach would be to support Hasbro to eventually do repaints of current JOE's and then new sculpts, so they are included offically. This is much better long term for all involved.

Things are always in motion and you never know that with the right approach and work, you may see an official release of sorts at some point. I also think to grow a regular UK based event would be a very positive move and go a long way quickly to make things happen sooner.

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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby gung-hoeddie » 15 Jun 2009 18:12

in regards to an event, how expensive would it be to lay one on?
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Sundance » 15 Jun 2009 19:53

i think that would depend on where it's held and who's invited. a piss-up down the pub's going to be cheaper than hireing out the NEC and having it hung with Red Shadow banners and populated with a bunch of cheap actors dressed in replica Red Shadow unis...

OBVIOUSLY... it's a matter of scale...
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Red Laser » 15 Jun 2009 19:55

Sundance wrote:i think that would depend on where it's held and who's invited. a piss-up down the pub's going to be cheaper than hireing out the NEC and having it hung with Red Shadow banners and populated with a bunch of cheap actors dressed in replica Red Shadow unis...

OBVIOUSLY... it's a matter of scale...
How was the first transforce done they must have started small to begin with?
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby The Kraken Wakes » 15 Jun 2009 19:56

Well its 1/18th isnt it...
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Red Laser » 15 Jun 2009 19:58

The Kraken Wakes wrote:Well its 1/18th isnt it...
1/18th?
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby The Baron » 15 Jun 2009 20:00

18th of January, Ironblood. You missed it.
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby Red Laser » 15 Jun 2009 20:01

The Baron wrote:18th of January, Ironblood. You missed it.
Oh I wasn't asking when it was just how did they start surely the first convention wasn't massive but thanks
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Re: THE RED SHADOWS MENTIONED IN DTC #2

Postby The Kraken Wakes » 15 Jun 2009 20:02

There were a fair few of us there...
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