JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Goofateer » 25 Feb 2010 06:31

Chopper wrote:Isn't outback a generic term tho?
You can copyright or trademark just about anything. Especially when it comes to characters, and advertising.

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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Chopper » 25 Feb 2010 06:57

I seem to recall that Windows had great difficulty being copyrighted as it was considered a generic term, certainly the reason the Pentium was introduced was becuase the number 586 couldn't be copyrighted. I dunno, all this legal mumbo jumbo. Are there any lawyers here?
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Sundance » 25 Feb 2010 08:21

thing is though, US copyright and UK copyright work differently, from what i've read in various places.

f'rinstance, on Star Trek, when Gene Coon created the Klingons, he didn't retain any copyright to the race and/or characters. they automatically became part of the rights of Star Trek. But when Kit Pedler created the Cybermen on Doctor Who, or Terry Nation created the Daleks, they both retained some copyright over their creations. Nation in particular had 50% ownership of the Daleks and that's why the Beeb had to negotiate for the rights to use the Daleks in nuWho. they had to get a deal with the Estate of Terry Nation to use them. Nation at one stage even planned to take the Daleks to the US and create a Dalek-centric show on US TV.

it's also why Marvel UK had to create a single-page strip starring Death's Head that they ran in other comics before the character appeared in Transformers. Otherwise he would automatically become part of the Transformers universe rights like Circuit Breaker or Susan Hoffman did. Because they had DH appear elsewhere first, they got the rights to him and could then use him in other comics.

theoretically therefore, Hasbro SHOULD own the name Red Shadow because DDP used it in their Joe comics. they will also own Wilder Vaughn, Dela Eden, Artur Kulik and any others. they probably don't own Red Wolf, Red Jackel, Red Vulture, Red Laser and Baron Ironblood as the names weren't used.

like i said, that's MY understanding. i could be utterly wrong.
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Red Laser » 25 Feb 2010 09:01

I thought it was Gene Roddenberry who created Star Trek. Who is Gene Coon? :-?
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby DAMartin » 25 Feb 2010 12:48

Sundance wrote:it's also why Marvel UK had to create a single-page strip starring Death's Head that they ran in other comics before the character appeared in Transformers. Otherwise he would automatically become part of the Transformers universe rights like Circuit Breaker or Susan Hoffman did. Because they had DH appear elsewhere first, they got the rights to him and could then use him in other comics.
Circuit Breaker also appeared in a single issue of Secret Wars II (chronologically after, but published before her appearances in Transformers), and that's why the later TF publishers (Dreamwave, IDW) can't reprint the Marvel issues where she appears.
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Sundance » 25 Feb 2010 13:07

Ironblood wrote:I thought it was Gene Roddenberry who created Star Trek. Who is Gene Coon? :-?
Roddenberry created Trek, but he didn't create the Klingons or the Romulans or some other characters/races. Gene L Coon was a writer/producer on S1 and 2 of TOS and among his credits is "Errand of Mercy" which introduced the Klingons.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Gene_Coon
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Andy1672 » 25 Feb 2010 22:01

Does anyone know which figure the new Shad rifle and bag came with ?
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby Andy1672 » 25 Feb 2010 22:10

Andy1672 wrote:Does anyone know which figure the new Shad rifle and bag came with ?
ok I found it ... Beach Head V11 ?
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby humby248 » 26 Feb 2010 01:50

Thats the only thing that lets the figure down. I think that particular weapon is one of the worst. Why did'nt they use an AK?
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Re: JOECON 2010-- RED SHADOWS ? ACTION FORCE ????

Postby jamarmiller » 26 Feb 2010 01:57

all things considered thought, that's a pretty cool weapon now that the magazine is removable

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